I’m thinking, again, about goals, and I’d like to get some input from you if you have a second. So here’s the thing: I think goals are extremely important. I’ve talked about this before (in my old blog). I know every writer has his or her own process, but I think it’s the writers who have worked out when and how often they should write (even if they don’t always stick to it) that end up becoming the most successful. Even though writing is rewarding, even though it’s fun and we do it because we enjoy it, the truth is, many of us wouldn’t do it anywhere near enough if we didn’t force ourselves to.
But how much is enough? That’s the real question. How much does a writer need to write per day, or per week, or per month, per year? There isn’t any set in stone answer to that question—the answer, of course, will vary from writer to writer, case to case. And that, I think, is where the trouble arises. Since there can be no concrete commandment—thou shalt write for at least two hours a day—many writers, I believe, at least at the early stages of their careers, struggle with the issue of how much they should be writing.
Some writers err on the side of overdoing it, buying into the idea that if you want writing to be your job, you should treat it like a job and write for eight hours a day. These people lock themselves away from the rest of the world and push their brains to the breaking point, and they end up having very little to write about because part of writing must come from other things—from reading, from interacting with other people, from having genuine experiences that can inform your texts.
Others, though, go to the opposite extreme, seeing writing as an art and therefore something that you must be inspired to do. These people rarely write at all. They may get lucky and pump out something good on the occasion that they actually produce anything at all, but it doesn’t matter—they don’t produce enough work to ever be very successful.
For those of us who would prefer to fall somewhere in the middle of the writing spectrum, the question remains: how much is enough? How much should we be writing?
I’ve often talked about how I have the ultimate goal (partially, I’ll admit, inspired by Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 hour rule from Outliers) of writing for an average of three hours a day. I was able to hit that goal for months at a time in grad school, although I was never able to keep it up for an entire year, and, after I graduated and entered into the real world of teaching three or four classes at a time, I’ve been struggling to keep up with an hour a day average. For the past couple of months, though, I’ve easily been logging an average of an hour a day, and I’ve decided it’s time to push myself a bit harder.
So here’s what I want to know from you: what’s your writing goal? How often do you write and how much do you push yourself to produce? How do you gauge your activity (weekly? monthly?), and do you log time or words? Let’s all pool our experiences, okay? I want to hear from you.
My writing goals over the years haven't taken the form of word count or hourly attempts. Instead,I shoot for project completion by approximate deadline. In grad school, I set the goal of trying to submit 3 new short stories and one revision per semester. For my thesis I had to "finish" my novel. This approach may have screwed me in the after MFA years, when I didn't have anyone imposing the numbers, but eventually I figured out how to paint myself into a corner by bragging that I was writing something. People began to ask me, "hey, are you finished with that yet? you said that you were going to be done with that by now."
ReplyDeleteAlright Ashley! It's good to hear that you have been easily writing an hour per day.
ReplyDeleteI'm still working by the hour. I took a whole week off for finals though. I am working constantly on applications right now. I guess writing personal statements count as writing time, which means I have been working like one of those overloaded stressed out writers.
When I am done with applications, I am just going to read with my notebook beside me whenever I want for as long as I want.
I love the idea that telling other people what you're working on ends up forcing you to keep/finish working on it, Jeanne. Setting deadlines to finish particular projects also seems like an excellent way to push yourself without feeling obligated to write for a certain number of hours or words a day. I like it!
ReplyDeleteAnd Jayme, I totally think that writing a personal statement counts as writing--and I love the idea of reading with your notebook nearby as a writing goal. I often forget about things like that when I'm making my goals. That seems like a good alternative to sitting in front of the computer and staring at a blank screen, and it probably produces much better writing in the end.
I try to write a couple of hours a day. It doesn't always happen, but it never would if I didn't have a definitive goal. After that amount of time, my brain begins to feel like mush no matter the word count, so it is time for a break. I also tend to do better if the writing is done earlier in the day, or it tends to be in the back of my mind and I come up with excuses to not do it. Then, later if I am up for it I can put in another hour.
ReplyDeleteBEING with the work you are trying to do takes up more time than just writing. I find that regiment is not for me. When I do that, I just get frustrated and mad at myself. So for me, mood is a major factor. But I am with the thing I am trying to write for many more hours than when I am actually writing.
ReplyDeleteI think reading is more helpful for writing than anything else. But I am also glad to play, talk, drive, eat.
When I was not yet an adult, I wrote madly in diaries. By madly, I mean incessantly and without reflection. I don't do that any more. Now each word I write is heavier, but I spend a lot more time in idle spaces than I did then. I mean like waiting for children to eat, get dressed, get in the car, go to the bathroom. I think it is possible that I am a better writer now that I don't write as much at one time.
At any rate, I value it more. Maybe as I get older, I will want to throw this stuff out too. But I agree with a whole heart that telling people about what you are writing helps you to get to the actual writing part of writing. And talking to an imaginary audience is often a good step toward writing it down.
Thanks for the prompt Ashely!
I guess I don't have an account other than anonymous, which shows I don't blog! But Sarah is my name.
This is a great question that I struggle to find the answer to. Lately I have been far more disciplined about getting writing done, but overall, I don't think that I thrive under having set goals. I very much recognize the reward behind the discipline of it, but my personality seems to war against it. If I HAVE to do something, then I don't want to do it. I hope that with age, that attitude will go away as I absolutely love writing. Lately, I have been spending a lot of time on fiction and every time I sit and write, I adore it. I love crafting and shaping a piece and turning a phrase. I still feel the same way that I did about writing as I did when I was ten, but with a bit of a stronger skill set.
ReplyDeleteI also worry about making writing my job. I think that many of us are hasty about wanting to do this, but, for me at least, I don't want to HAVE to write, regardless of the paycheck. I acknowledge that this is easy to say, but I'm just putting it out there. I want to have writing as a relaxant and as an outlet for creativity. Yes, I want to make money and I want to build up my CV so that I can have a decent job doing what I love, but I always want to remember loving it. I love playing video games also, but if someone made me sit down for 8 hours a day to play Wii, I would fight against it, simply because of my personality.
I want to find the sweet balance between love and career, I guess is what I'm getting at. I think everyone has to find their own way and that no one's way is perfect. That's the cool thing about art, I think. The individuality.
Thanks for letting us share, Ashley. I can't wait to hold your book in my hands!
I'm totally with Sarah when she talks about spending time "being with the work." I am (almost) constantly thinking about the things I'm working on, new things I might want to try, ideas, scenes, titles, dialogue. So, I don't think I can really measure how much time I really spend with a story/novel/ "piece" (such a pretentious word, no?).
ReplyDeleteI do know that when I sit down to actually hammer out my thoughts on paper (read: screen) it usually doesn't take me too long because of all of the time I've spent thinking about it. Usually.
I also know that I do MUCH better with a project if it has a deadline. Nearly twenty years in school and I might be stuck with that paradigm. Though maybe that's the true moment someone studying writing becomes a writer: when they can write without a deadline.
I'd like to make it a goal to sit down to write more often, but I worry I'll rebel against myself if I start telling myself what to do.
I struggle with getting in regular writing in the midst of my working life and everything else, but I've found that the times that have been the most successful are times when I've had a specific project I'm working on and could set a specific goal for that project. And usually that corresponds to when I have some extra time.
ReplyDeleteA couple years ago, I had three weeks free, and I set the goal to write the rough draft of what I anticipated would be a 60,000 word children's novel. I broke the overall word count up over that time and figured if I wrote about 3,000 words a day, I could do it. And, sure enough, I did. Other times I've set similar goals with time frames, like finish a revision to submit to a contest by the end of the month. Those goals that correspond to projects work best for me. If I just set a goal to write every day for a certain amount of time or a certain number of words, I don't tend to be as successful in meeting those goals if I'm not focused on one specific project.
I'll have a few weeks off for winter break coming up, so my goal will be to complete the current revision of my novel and have it ready to submit to some book contests next year. I think that should be totally doable, but I might not necessarily write for a set amount of time each day.
Two hours a day seems like a good goal. I also find that I do my best work in the mornings, but I need to be better about remembering this fact in the mornings.
ReplyDeleteSarah, Raymond, and Jolynn, I love all of your takes on this topic. Perhaps pushing ourselves to write more ends up causing the writing itself to decrease in quality even as it increases in quantity. Really, all of these other things that we do in our lives are as important to our writing as the actual time we spend in front of the computer. I too spend a lot of time thinking about whatever project I'm currently working on, and maybe I'm putting too much emphasis on how much I actually produce and not realizing that the time I spend reading and just thinking about my stories should count as writing time too.
And Justus, I like the idea of setting project based goals rather than more general time or word goals. That puts the emphasis on making a specific project as good as possible. Using contests as deadlines is a great idea, too!
Great question. For me I think I'm quite a bit different because I haven't run into anyone else so far who tends to have the same full approach as I do. For me, project based goals are best. I'm at my best when I have a clear project in mind, as opposed to a page or time goal, I feel like not only do I write more, but the quality is also better. On the other hand, I also find I like working on more than one project at once, and actually do my best when I have 3 to 4 to switch between at the same time.
ReplyDeleteI guess that's the equivalent of writer's ADD, but when I am balancing more than one project, I'll have a spurt where I work on one, then when that fades out, I almost always find myself attracted to a very different project next, like my subconscious likes to work on a screenplay while I'm consciously working on a novel (up to 19 rejection letters with some form of hand writing for "My Brother's Keeper", by the way) or I'll spend an entire day on my epic poem and wake up the next day with the perfect ending for my genre short story. Just the way my mind works at its best.
I try to make sure I put in at least 3 to 5 hours of work on one specific project each week, and I find if I do that, almost inevitably I'll work even more on my total creative writing. I like to measure myself by projects, and as long as I see steady progress in at least a couple, it keeps me encouraged.
Then once in a while I do get times when "inspiration hits" and at that point everything in life becomes secondary until I finish. This happened to me with the master's thesis as I wrote over half of it during one 23 hour marathon span - but that's much less common.
So that's my treatise on the matter.
Hurray for personal rejections! I'm the same way as you, Shane, where I'm usually working on more than one project at a time. Right now I'm working on about the millionth revision of my thesis, the second draft of a newer novel, and a handful of short stories on the side. I completely agree with you. If you get blocked or need to think a bit more about what to do on one project, it's nice to have another you can get back to work on. Project based goals seem to be what's working for most everybody, and 3-5 hours a week on a specific project seems like an excellent goal.
ReplyDeleteI think it varies, and that is the method that works best for me. While working on my thesis, I was writing 1,000 words per day. Honestly, that was the most productive and in-tune I have ever been with my writing. The idea for the goal came from Gerri Brightwell, and I also would often leave the last sentence I wrote unfinished.
ReplyDeleteWhen I wrote that, I had a soundtrack. I would listen to the exact same songs in the exact same order and by the end I knew how far I had gone by which song I was at in the playlist. On average, it would be about two to three hours.
These days, it is a lot more sporadic. I write more when I am assigning writing exercises, and I try to follow some of the deadlines that I give to my students. Also, we started a post-MFA writer's group up here, and the biweekly meetings gives us all goals to shoot for.
I wish I could write for four hours per day. But then again, maybe not. I respond best with deadlines, and avoid writing because of my standard set of fears (failure, no ideas, shallow efforts, mimicry). But it is the act that keeps us going. When I am in the moment, the fears are gone, and all that avoidance of writing--though somewhat necessary for me--has been forgotten.
Also, I have been trying a program called "Write Room" that blanks out your entire computer screen, and you are left with a blinking green cursor, like an Apple IIe. That works for me, because I can distract myself with fonts and symbols and other things for hours on end.
I love this idea of having a playlist that also functions as a time gauge. I usually listen to the same set of songs when I'm working on a particular project, so it would make sense to just create a playlist of those songs and then use it to tell how long I've been at it in each session. Also, that's so cool that you guys have a post-MFA writer's group!
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